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 The Importance of Maintenance
 
imgOfflinedbach
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The Importance of Maintenance
Posted: 11 Jan 07 3:54 PM

Not any discussion on this topic yet but rest assured this is a major issue. It is essential that you consider maintenance issues when you consider your park. At a minimum your insurance company is going to expect someone with knowledge of the equipment to make periodic inspections of the equipment.  It is best if the inspections are scheduled. If your equipment has a functional life of ten years can you consider budgeting some money each year towards replacement costs when it wears out?  It is equally important that you keep a record of your inspections and any items that need repair.  You need to keep a log of the items repaired and who repaired them.  Any park you build these days will be designed for user safety for the long term.  However normal wear and tear, vandalism and the weather can render some pieces unsafe to use.  In order to protect yourself, your organization and most important, the kids on the equipment, please give serious thought to the following:

Who is going to be in charge of maintenance?

How will you fund maintenance?

Who will perform routine repairs?

If someone identifies a problem who will they report it to?

Where will the log be held and maintained?

A photo log would be a great idea.

I work for a municipal government and managed a skatepark build as a volunteer project.  While the parks department has assumed the responsibility for maintenance of the park they do not give it a high priority. Nor have they budgeted any money for repairs or maintenance.  The landscaping alone requires about 100 man-hours a year to keep looking good. Everyone expects the volunteers who built the project to come back and give it tender loving care but that just isn’t the reality. We have an ideal situation and should be rock solid in this area but as you can see our experience is less that ideal.  So please consider these in advance and make it a part of your budget.

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Re: The Importance of Maintenance
Posted: 20 Jan 07 12:00 PM

Wow! These are fantastic hints! Thanks for sharing.

Does anyone else have something to add from your own experience?

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Re: The Importance of Maintenance
Posted: 26 Feb 07 1:06 PM
I'm with a municipal government and would caution playground builders to think long and hard about surface material.  We went to 12" of wood fiber a number of years ago as it was the cheapest - but the maintenance costs are very high.  We're needing to top off every two or three years.  As a result all new playgrounds we build are getting 6" of chopped rubber instead.  In Maryland there is a state program that chops tires, removes metal and dyes the rubber and it is significantly cheaper than commercially available products.  However, it is more up front than wood fiber, but the maintenance costs seem to be way less.  I'd check with your state DNR or Environmental Quality people as I'll bet other states are doing the same.
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Re: The Importance of Maintenance
Posted: 26 Feb 07 2:14 PM
great suggestions on the shredded tire idea--do you know what the cost is say per square foot or square yard? I have seen/heard instances with shredded tires that complaints have come in because it has stained kids clothing and that it didn't come in a consistent shreds--like with many new projects it takes some time to work the kinks out and requires you to do your homework both on the product and vendor. Do you use a specific vendor and what is your experience?
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Re: The Importance of Maintenance
Posted: 14 Mar 07 8:00 AM

I have trouble finding the login every time- maybe should let guests post so that things are easier-  Anyway, there is a calculator at the Maryland Environmental Services website for treadspread http://www.treadspread.com/

We are paying $.17 a pound for chopped rubber.  That works out to $2.38 a square foot.  We tried shredded rubber in the past and had to remove it because of complaints about staining kids clothes and melting in their pockets in the dryer.  No complaints with this newer product.  We love it.  If you put down wear mats it is almost maintenance free, and my impression is that 6" of the chopped rubber feels far springier (safer) than 12" of wood fiber.

imgOfflinetinabeauvais
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Re: The Importance of Maintenance
Posted: 17 Mar 07 7:23 PM
I decided to take a look into this because of all the raves.  I'm still trying to collect information.  Our play area already has quite a bit of mulch, but when we put the new structures in, I may consider putting this around them, but I'd like to leave the mulch we currently have everywhere else.  It would be way out of our budget to replace all of it.  Has anyone had experience combining the two surfaces with adjoining play areas?  We have not had a lot of maintenance issues with our exisiting mulch, but we probably don't check as frequently as we should that it is adequate.
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Re: The Importance of Maintenance
Posted: 21 Mar 07 12:53 PM

Hi Tina,

In order to meet CPSC (Consumer Product Safety Commission) guidelines, wood fiber surfacing must have an uncompressed depth of 12" (9" compressed).  When you installed your playground, it was most likely installed with the understanding that the surfacing would be at least 9" deep.  If you decide to use the shredded rubber, technically speaking you only need 6" - BUT your playground was not installed for a 6" surfacing level - meaning that the playground structure (picture slides too far off the ground) would be 3" too high.  In other words, you still need to install 9" of shredded rubber for the new playground. 

In my opinion, I would stick to adding more engineered wood fiber unless you can a) separate the new playground from the old one with border timbers AND b) install at least 9" of compressed shredded rubber.

Hope that helps!

Tiffiney

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Re: The Importance of Maintenance
Posted: 04 Apr 07 1:48 PM
Currently we are switching over to chopped rubber where we have playgrounds with 6" high borders.  We will be doing all playgrounds eventually even those with an 11" depth (2- 6x6 timbers).  Our plan is to place a layer of gravel for drainage, a filter fabric and then 6" of chopped rubber on top.  I would not advise mixing wood fiber and chopped rubber in the same playground.  Our experience has been that the wood fiber needs a major refill every 3 years to maintain levels.  We have mushrooms coming up thick in some as well.  We have lost big trees as well where they were just outside the playground and the 9" deep compacted wood fiber over their roots has killed the roots.  Between labor costs for refilling, expenses for tree removal and cost of wood fiber we have decided we would be best to shift to chopped rubber over a period of years.  It's not the right solution for everyone but if your situation is like ours, you may want to consider it.  I especially regret the loss of a number of large beautiful trees.
imgOfflinetinabeauvais
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Re: The Importance of Maintenance
Posted: 21 Jun 07 3:15 PM

Hi all.  We have a new issue.  We have existing safety surfacing that we are moving out of the way to tear out old and install new equipment.  Well, how can you tell how much you need to order before you get it all back into place?  We want to have it on site for build day, but obviously don't want to spend more than necessary.  And, it's hard to tell how much depth we have currently since it's all compacted and will be moved and moved back again.  Anybody experience this?

Tina

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Re: The Importance of Maintenance
Posted: 25 Jun 07 12:39 PM
Thank you for posting this. This is information that I have to reconsider when finihing my plans for the playground we plan to do at a church in Oxnard, Ca. Does weather have anything to do with choosing the type of ground material for the playground?
imgOfflinebgraham
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Re: The Importance of Maintenance
Posted: 06 Jul 07 2:41 PM
Hello.  I am not sure if I totally understand your question, but I will give it a shot.  I think the first step is to evaluate the condition of the old surfacing material.  Is it very decomposed?  After demo, will it be mixed with other materials, or will it be "clean"?  Then, the vendor/manufacturer should be able to tell you how much surfacing material you need in total.  If your old surfacing material can be re-used, you could estimate the number of yards of it you have by depositing it into a roll-off container (or other type of container whose size you know) when you excavate it from the play area.  Subtract this from the total your vendor provided you, and you should have an estimate of how much you need to purchase.  I hope this is helpful.
imgOfflineWest Grand
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Re: The Importance of Maintenance
Posted: 11 Jul 07 11:53 PM

Thanks for this information. Our Insurance Carrier suggested the maintenance log, I really liked your photo log suggestion.

Thanks for sharing.

Martha Schake
West Grand Community Skate Park
Kremmling, Colorado

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Re: The Importance of Maintenance
Posted: 23 Jul 07 12:41 AM
Tina, maybe you got this answered already but whenever we do Engineered Wood Fiber we will purchase a 12" depth and it is a very simple calculation.  To find out this amount, you will need to know the square footage of your playground area, multiply that by .05, and that will tell you the amount of cubic yards of engineered wood fiber.  I would also consider adding 5-10% in case borders need to be moved out slightly on Build Day and a little extra will never hurt.
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